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Sensorgrams - inaccurate fits 13 Jul 2015 13:03 #1

Hi!

I've been working with the interaction between various antibodies and GLP-1, and achieved the included sensorgrams. I have trouble producing a valid mathematical fit to the curvatures, and although I've tried to locate advice on this page and the included references, I'm still uncertain which parameters to alter to obtain sensorgrams of higher quality.

Please let me know what your more experienced eyes notice about my sensorgrams, and what you would adjust if any.

Settings:
Chip: Xantec carboxymethylated hydrogel (HC) 1000m
Flow rate: 20 uL/min
Running buffer: PBS buffer
Protein solutions: 1 mg/ml GLP-1 in 20 mM AcOH solution diluted into PBS buffer for desired concentrations

Results from capture immobilisation method at 25 C.
IndirectGLP2.png


Results from direct immobilisation method at 25 C.
DirectGLP2.png


Results from direct immobilisation method at 10 C.
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Results from direct immobilisation method at 40 C.
40degrees.png

Sensorgrams - inaccurate fits 14 Jul 2015 09:59 #2

Hi,

Just looking at the sensorgrams, I have the following remarks:
Sensorgram 1) I do not see any dissociation part and the blue line looks a to have a shorter injection period. In addition it looks like that there was some negative drift.

2) The transition of the association to the dissociation phase is strange as if the separation of the sample and buffer was not optimal.

3) Too high response levels and probably mass transfer at the beginning of the sensorgram.

4) As 3) but highest is more bumpy and the transition of association to dissociation phase is diffrent from the rest of the dissociation.

Suggestions
- keep responses low
- equilibrate thoroughly
- have sufficient dissociation
- check separation of sample and buffer (clean tubing)

I think with some optimization you can have nice data

Kind regards

Arnoud
Last Edit: 14 Jul 2015 10:00 by Arnoud.

Sensorgrams - inaccurate fits 16 Jul 2015 00:38 #3

Thank you very much for your quick reply.

I've discovered a more precise method to separate the sample and buffer when injecting. Hopefully this will improve the transition, especially regarding the ones immobilised direct.

Additional quick question regarding #1. Do you know what the quick drop after association is related to? I've performed additional experiments with indirect immobilisation on another chip, and the case seems to be identical.
Last Edit: 16 Jul 2015 00:48 by Layzing.

Sensorgrams - inaccurate fits 16 Jul 2015 08:28 #4

First i was thinking about a buffer difference between flow and analyte but since it is not obvious present at the start probably that is not the case.

Speculation: Maybe a built up of protein that binds very weak and is washed away immediately after stopping the analyte injection. After that the dissociation of the remaining thighter bound protein is visible.

Arnoud

Sensorgrams - inaccurate fits 26 Aug 2015 02:20 #5

Is it ever reasonable to treat such data in steps, circumventing the sudden non-BI related jump?

Calculating dissocation constant isolated and keeping it constant for the association fit?

Sensorgrams - inaccurate fits 26 Aug 2015 19:59 #6

It is possible to do that but I have never seen anyone publishing it.

One other concern is that you can pick the region to be fit at your convenience. That will give some bias to the answer, making it look better than it is.

I suggest you try, but do some simulations with the fitted values and compare the simulations with the original data. In the end you should show a sensorgram and fitting to your audience.

Arnoud
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